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Mandela on Haile Selassie

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What do Haile Selassie and Mandela have in common? Among other things, both are Africa’s most prominent politicians who have come to be considered as inspiring and iconic figures of our age. Though one was a symbol of regal and feudal power and the other a revolutionary with Marxist inclination, both have come to demonstrate great political ability and astuteness during their period in office. Both suffered colonial oppression, and both of them mobilized their respective peoples against oppressors that violated their freedoms. Both are cool, self-contained men, who managed to stay calm and graceful under pressure.
In 1962, the burly, black-haired Mandela came to Ethiopia seeking military and political training to fight apartheid. At a young age and without much experience as a freedom fighter, Mandela was thrilled to see and meet the black independent sovereign who already gained prominence in the international scene. The following excerpt from Nelson Mandela’s new book, Conversations With Myself, renders a portrait of Haile Selassie based on a meeting with the Ethiopian Emperor in military parade in Addis Ababa. From a recorded conversation with Time magazine editor, Stengel, we could see that Mandela was clearly impressed by the Emperor’s statesmanship. He spoke few words given their distant acquaintance but they will carry immense weight simply because of who he is. Describing the Emperor as “an impressive fellow man, man, very impressive”, Mandela adds: “It was my first time to watch…a head of state going through the formalities.” Here is the whole text.

Conversations with Richard Stengel about meeting Emperor Haile Selassie of Ethiopia
STENGEL: So tell me about the Emperor, Haile Selassie. You met him.
MANDELA: That was an impressive fellow, man, very impressive. It was my first time to watch…a head of state going through the formalities… the motions of formality. This chap came wearing a uniform and he then came and bowed. But it was a bow which was not a bow –he stood erect, you see, but just brought down his head…then…took his seat and addressed us, but he spoke in (Amharic)…Then, at the end of the conference he saw every, each delegation…and Comrade Oliver Tambo asked me to speak for our delegation, to speak to him. And I explained to him very briefly what was happening in South Africa…He was seated on his chair, listening like a log…not nodding, just immovable, you know, like a statue…The next time I saw him was when we attended a military parade, and that was very impressive (whistles), absolutely impressive. And he was then giving awards…to the soldiers; everyone who had graduated got a certificate… A very fine ceremony-a very dignified chap- and he also gave medals. There (were) American military advisors… (and) groups of military advisers from various countries …And so he gave medals to these chaps too. But to see whites going to a black monarch emperor and bowing was also very interesting.

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  1. September 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm | #1

    Nice!”But to see whites going to a black monarch emperor and bowing was also very interesting.”

  2. shashu
    September 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm | #2

    There is a big difference between the two. While Mandela helped end apartheid, won his country’s first democratic elections and stepped down graciously after one term, Haile Selassie came to power in a coup and ruled the country for half century by force, strictly for the benefit of his family and friend and had sent billions of dollars to Swiss bank. Power for Haile Selassie was not the means to an end but the end itself.While Mandela had a modest life style, Haile selassie was accustomed to Rolls-Royces and luxury. Mandela celebrates his 9oth birthday, acclaimed around the world as one of the great leaders of his time.

    • Nadia
      May 27, 2013 at 9:26 am | #3

      Lady, your comparison is worthless, you’ve missed the essence, the point.

    • May 29, 2013 at 10:23 pm | #4

      please inform uself why he did that things! and who HE was! the rolls royce was a present to him. he sent the money while the italian invasion of his country…the benefit of others was his greatest wish… and He has the right to rule this earth foriver…respect please

    • cassandra
      August 28, 2013 at 11:44 pm | #5

      OMG. I am ashamed to even be responding to your comment, but this is expected of people who are blind to the truth they are allowed to say whatever they wish. please research and study about his Majesty Haile Selassie and then come correct

    • September 26, 2013 at 4:34 pm | #6

      His majesty did not come to power in a coup…your history is totally incorrect

    • December 6, 2013 at 1:18 am | #7

      You must have read Kapuściński’s The Emperor, a work of fiction. I suggest you Read “My Life and Ethiopia’s Progress”. The Swiss bank story is a total lie and your slanderous words are disgusting propaganda.

    • December 6, 2013 at 2:17 am | #8

      You are obviously misled to these ass*umptions !!! Get your facts straight before speaking out ignorant untruths about HIM Haile Selassie!

    • AFreekan Joe Be
      December 6, 2013 at 11:02 am | #9

      @ Shashu – Do Ur research On Haile Selassie Very Well Cos Ure Sounding Very Miss-informed

    • jason
      December 15, 2013 at 12:24 am | #10

      I’m a citizen of SA I don’t know mnr mandela or haven met him in person but I know he is the reason that I could walk around and talk to and have relationships with any one no matter the skin color. I agree with the statement about haili salasi I…that he have not felt like mnr mandela during the apartheid time. THANK YOU tata for your fatherly love to the nation I know I would not have done what you did…THANK YOU!

  3. September 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm | #11

    my fist time seeing an article that compares a freedom fighter and a freedom killer. Wan’t the emperor busy celebrating his birthday when millions were dying in norther Ethiopia from famine and hunger?”

    • Yewbdar Seyoum
      September 29, 2011 at 3:16 pm | #12

      Actually Henok G.Gabisa the king was inviting a lot of diplomats, investors….. from d/t countries to inspire them to invest in the country birth day was the cover. we better not listen to politicians about history (to historian , read book & people lived during his time.

      • October 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm | #13

        Henok I feel you, but I heard even PM Meles Zenawi said, Mandela was traind by the Emperor. It is very new to me too!

    • Ras
      September 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm | #14

      Ignorance is not an excuse

    • DERRION
      February 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm | #15

      THIS IS NOT A FAIR STATEMENT!……SLEASSIE IS AND WAS A GREAT MAN!, WHATEVER PROPOGANDA THEY FEEDING YOU…….THE MAN NEVA INVADED BUT ONLY DEFENDED…..A KING IS A KING REGARDLESS, MANDELA WAS NOT A KING!…..SELASSIE TITLE IS HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, KING OF KINGS……….NO OTHET KING IN DA WORLD HAS THAT TITLE!

      • March 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm | #16

        Not everyone is entitled to own a name that is worthy to give Praise in the world and HIM is the only one in the world who has done that, Who is Worthy to Open The Seals Thereof in the Whole World

    • June 29, 2013 at 8:08 am | #17

      It is no surprising that African leaders who refuse to bow to western selfish demands are often viewed negatively. EHS I, like any other human, had his faults. However, they are not enough to erase his enormous achievements. Stop being biased.

      • Merhawi Mihreteab
        December 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm | #18

        What achievements? He was a regal man who captivated his people and the Europeans with his charisma and overall awe, but he was an incompetent leader who lead over an ancient and extractive feudal system. He was a European image of Africa who was strutted around as a propaganda against the Axis’s fascist intents. He failed to properly rule over his people and take unselfish action when needed, That’s why the people striked and the low level military personnel that were the Derg took power in a coup. Good leaders don’t gain support for a coup by their own people

    • Asamenew
      September 13, 2013 at 7:39 am | #19

      Desta :
      People like Shashu and Henok really need to pay attention to what they are stating.
      The fact of the matter is Haile Selassie was a great emperor and he completely transformed not only Ethiopia, but Africa as a whole. He was well respected by many important diplomats and President’s around the world and the fact that you would attempt to tarnish his legacy is ridiculous. He was not a dictator (Meles on the other hand was) and with Haile Selassie in power Ethiopia had become an African powerhouse. We were the first African Nation to be members of the United Nations, the list goes on and on.
      Anyways, this is all besides the point. This article is describing the relationship/friendship that Haile Selassie and Nelson Mandela had, and he is doing so in his own eyes. His own experience. So, there is no right or wrong way to portray him and I think he did a great job. And to me, Nelson Mandela and Haile Selassie are two of the greatest African Leaders of all time.

      Some people simply turn a deaf ear to what is the truth about their great leaders and listen to what is said by politician for political gain. It is not surprising to hear comments like this as we know that those who know nothing worries about nothing.

      • September 14, 2013 at 12:56 pm | #20

        Dear Desta

        How I wish it was me who had put those words together, how much more will certain people who have grown in hate towards H.I.M Haile Selassie continue.
        Before His Imperial Majesty came and ruled, they were a thorn in the side of Ethiopia and Africa for want and political gain, they took their place in sowing the seeds in world war two, also for want and continued way past His Imperial Majesty’s time in office and still they are found wanting.
        Why won’t they prefer to give the helping hand that is for the benefit of all the people and extending to the world, is really beyond belief.

        Blessed be The King His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I RasTafari

    • AFreekan Joe Be
      December 6, 2013 at 11:08 am | #21

      read on the speech H.I.M Haile Salassi 1st on How he implored the queen and other world leaders to do something about the Condition of his people And the invasion of Mussolini And Other war crimes against Ethiopia And How the land was filled with land mines and other devastating chemicals by your people I Suppose.. I wonder what U people Learn In Your schools

    • shareopie
      December 20, 2013 at 5:19 pm | #22

      Is that a fact ? or popular fiction. First get your “facts” straight.

  4. Alem
    September 28, 2011 at 3:43 pm | #23

    I agree with Shash and Henok. We also need to credit the Emperor for the role he played in the struggle for freedom from colonial rule. Don’t forget Mandela was in Ethiopia to receive training. Moreover, Ethiopia/the Emperor remember aggression from Fascist Italy and British secret design to control or breakup Ethiopia.

  5. Abebaw
    September 28, 2011 at 6:35 pm | #24

    Shashu,
    What’s your evidence regarding the alleged Swiss ” billions ” ?. Smarter people than you, and those in the know have always said it’s just an allegation and a highly exaggerated one at that. Derg fabricated that for obvious reason : as a propaganda weapon against the great man. The truth is, the Emperor HELPED MANDELA TO END APARTHIED. The emperor gave Mandela the first gun that he ever touched and trained him and the other leaders at KOLFE in Addis. This is no rumor, mandela said so in his book. Also, Mandela couldn’t have kept ruling forever because he was not an absolute monarch. ” it’s the system,st_pid ” !

    • shareopie
      December 20, 2013 at 5:22 pm | #25

      Derg, which in fact did abscond wth millions and waste billions, and created this fiction searched for 17 years for these fictional Billions(well at the time they were only 30 million dollars. Apparently inflation… you know:). They never found em. Maybe Shashu and his the current occupants in Menelik Palace know where they are.

  6. Tewfik
    September 29, 2011 at 10:42 pm | #26

    The emperor did not give Mandela the gun. It was an Oromo colonel in the Army who offered Mandela the gun as a gift.

    • Franco
      September 14, 2013 at 1:32 am | #27

      HIM Haile Selassie I is not going to give you a gun, He give you a brain.

    • shareopie
      December 20, 2013 at 5:23 pm | #28

      Interesting. I guess that Oromo Colonel who was ordered to the task by an Ethiopian Emperor just conjured the said weapon.

      • December 21, 2013 at 11:33 am | #29

        …under the Imperial Government Colonel’s no matter what ethnic group all reported to HIM, so in this instant the Colonel would presenting a gift, on behalf of the Crown.

  7. Tewfik
    September 29, 2011 at 10:43 pm | #30

    During Haileselassie’s rule slavery was rampant. Southern Ethiopians were sold in an open market and shipped to Arab countries.

    • Dawit
      October 1, 2011 at 6:13 am | #31

      In case you don’t know, Emperor Haile Selassie issued a Proclamation on August 27, 1942 to abolish slavery.

    • February 3, 2013 at 4:31 pm | #32

      Rampant not because of His Imperial Majesty but because some of His people wanted to continue it for that magical work, self-interest and don’t forget it.

  8. Abebaw
    September 30, 2011 at 7:41 pm | #33

    Tewfik
    Was there any need to inject ” oromo ” in our discusion ? “Tadesse Birru” or ” a colonel ” would have sufficed, but no ! you have this uncontrolable urge to ethnicise – It is a third world trait that explains Africa’s backwardness and maybe even its eventual demise. Be that as it may, the said ‘ oromo ‘ colonel was picked to train Mandela by the Emperor, and you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that a mere colonel in the army cannot give a firearm to a forieign national without the knowing nod or the order of the emperor. As for slavery, Emperor Minilik worked the hardest to abolish slave trade and emperor Haile Sellase effectively ended it. Guess who the most notorious slave trader was in southern Ethiopia ? – It was the Oromo king, Jimma Aba jiffar who reputedly owned as many as 10,000 slaves. The letters that emperor Minilik wrote to him are a matter of record. One of them starts thus : I have told you before again and again to stop selling and buying slaves……After learning that jiffar was still involed in the buying and selling of southern Ethiopian slaves to Arab countries he also wrote him letters of admonition. It’s all a matter of record.

  9. Golfiti
    September 30, 2011 at 8:26 pm | #34

    Shash and all the guys that want to play down the emperor’s role in African liberation , worse even blame him for apartheid should look no further than your own neighbors, ie. the people whom you associate with. Lets face it, Apartheid came to exist in Ethiopia not during the emperor’s time but now.
    Twfik, you are right in that the emperor didn’t give the gun to Mandela nor did he train the freedom fighter. Can we also say the same about all the bad things that happened in Ethiopia like the hangings of people at public squares or even the slavery some one else mentioned? Can we disassociate the emperor from these crimes?

  10. Desalegn
    October 1, 2011 at 6:36 am | #35

    Emperor Haile Selassie may not always be the loved father of Ethiopians. Yet he guided Ethiopia into the modern era. Under him, an isolated Ethiopia integrated into the larger family of nations during a century characterized by ever shrinking borders and increasingly interconnected human existence. He is not only immortalized as the last Ethiopian emperor, but also he is also the spiritual father of modern day independent Africa. We have to remember that both Haile Selassie and Mandela are human beings with flaws and weaknesses just like everyone else. Mandela’s espousal of terrorism in 1961, for instance, is more difficult to justify today than it once was. As it was stated by one of his biographer, Mandela is an ungrateful son, ‘embarrassed’ by his illiterate, pipe-smoking mother, an unfaithful and violent husband, who attempted to throttle his first wife, Evelyn, and an unfeeling father who recoiled from his Aids-infected son. For good measure, he is also a crypto-communist, whose critical decision to steer the non-violent African National Congress (ANC)towards a bombing campaign in 1961 was influenced by Marxist ideology.

  11. emanuel
    October 8, 2011 at 5:07 pm | #36

    I enjoy both views as to speak in defense inwho-ich eachother respect the most. To see two humans grappling verbal projections against the characters of two distinguish men in their own right shows the lack of appreciation for wisdom from to seperate angles for forward progress or the potential regress so its not base on either perspective is tell the world or show what you can do with the real knowledge from infinite wisdom based on reality

  12. October 24, 2011 at 10:26 pm | #37

    I have read much into the reign of the Emperor and have a deep respect for a shrewd leader and diplomat who not only steered Ethiopia into the League of nations but also was a contributer to the setup of the United Nations. He astonishingly brought progress on tight budgets borrowing money from the west and from investments that he brought to Ethiopia. He constructed the 4th largest army in Africa at the time bringing security. He established the OAU.

    Before the main thrust of the civil rights movement Haile Selassie confronted the European powers through the League of nations standing up to nationalism and fascism before any Europeans nation dared and foresaw that though today it be Ethiopia tomorow it will be the entire world.

    People who resent the Emperor do so on the basis on communist propoganda which has destroyed the entire nations progress sending it into a dark age along with every other fad following communist country. Menguistu who ran, ran, ran all the way to Zimbabwe.

    People should also recheck all the facts of that terrible period including certain suggestions that haile Selassie made it out of Ethiopia and into Britain. This would explain the contradictory reports of the Emperor’s death which was kept as quiet as possible, not so to stir some kind of public reaction, because the Derg enforced this through its brutal murderings of it’s own people. Thats the murder, of its own people and thats not before the worst famines in years and years came revealing as they do right up to right now, as in today that the ‘propoganda’ against the Emperor was over stated. Haile Selassie was right. These famines have always occured. People who think they can solve famines by throwing money at it are wrong and even with the whole world dealing with the issue ever since Geldolf got the west discussing still it has not been solved.

    Alex

  13. Tegbaru Misikir
    November 26, 2011 at 1:29 pm | #38

    1. Marcus Garvey pointed out that HSI “ran away from his country to England, leaving his people to be massacred by the Italians” (Marcus Garvey, The Failure of Haile Selassie as Emperor, Black Man – London, 2. Steven said, “HSI ( Emperor HSI of Ethiopia until 1974) remained in Bath ,UK, for the duration of the war, but on returning to take his place on the throne he became paranoid about the PATRIOTS who had stayed and fought the Italians, fearing their bravery and preferring obsequiousness. Thus, they were gradually removed from positions of authority and replaced with those who had collaborated with the Italians as he knew they could be easily kept in line and would be open to the methods Selassie used to control his dignitaries. Selassie’s methods of asserting and achieving and maintaining power involved breeding an atmosphere of distrust and corruption, where government officials would inform on each other in a constant vying for power, each wanting to be noticed and promoted by the Emperor, as the financial rewards could be great. 3. Ethiopia had much in common with any other capitalist society. For instance, starving peasants felt themselves privileged to even see a rich person in the flesh (shades of the homeless in Britain grieving over a recently deceased Princess). To achieve this state of affairs, Selassie would throw crumbs to the poor and bribe the rich. An example of this was his practice of throwing coppers to the poor to celebrate his birthday each year.4. Selassie bred corruption in Ethiopia; he maintained a backward and inhuman system in which millions of his subject lived in degrading poverty, oppressive misery and ignorance. Nowhere in the world was the gulf between rich and poor greater. In 1973 Jonathan Dimbleby visited northern Ethiopia and made the film which was to signal the end for Selassie. The film for the first time showed that people were starving to death in their multitudes, despite the money for ‘development’ which was being pumped into the country. At the Palace the splendour and riches seemed to know no bounds. The juxtapositioning of the two contrasting images in the film was striking; the pigs with their sumptuous banquets were growing fatter on the backs of walking skeletons. Of course this hunger suited Selassie as people could hardly rebel when they were starving to death. There was in fact, however, plenty of grain in Ethiopia. But landowners took the harvest from the peasants, grain prices doubled and the farmers who grew the grain could not afford to buy it. Marcus Garvey said, “When the facts of history are written Haile Selassie of Abyssinia will go down as a great coward who ran away from his country to save his skin and left the millions of his countrymen to struggle through a terrible war that he brought upon them because of his political ignorance and his racial disloyalty. (Garvey, 1937)” Marcus Garvey further said, “Haile Selassie was not God or a great reformer; but a callous, greedy, thieving autocrat, who should be remembered for the murdering leech that he was.” 5. Selassie bred corruption in Ethiopia; he maintained a backward and inhuman system in which millions of his subject lived in degrading poverty, oppressive misery and ignorance. Nowhere in the world was the gulf between rich and poor greater. In 1973 Jonathan Dimbleby visited northern Ethiopia and made the film which was to signal the end for Selassie. The film for the first time showed that people were starving to death in their multitudes, despite the money for ‘development’ which was being pumped into the country. At the Palace the splendour and riches seemed to know no bounds. The juxtapositioning of the two contrasting images in the film was striking; the pigs with their sumptuous banquets were growing fatter on the backs of walking skeletons. Of course this hunger suited Selassie as people could hardly rebel when they were starving to death. There was in fact, however, plenty of grain in Ethiopia. But landowners took the harvest from the peasants, grain prices doubled and the farmers who grew the grain could not afford to buy it.

    • November 5, 2013 at 1:12 pm | #39

      You are totally misinformed! Garvey at best was jealous of His Majesty’s position…he was eternally angry because he was not invited to the Coronation…he felt slighted; Garvey may have been a genius on mobilizing black people but he was a fool at international politics…anyone who doesn’t see that deserves to ride int he boat with him…down the drain.

  14. Etetu
    November 28, 2011 at 8:07 pm | #40

    One thing is true, Mandela stayed in prison while Winnie continued the movement and kept it alive. Winnie deserves ninety five percent of the credit than Mandela. He is like yedel atbiaya arbenigna in Amharic. Haile was a monarch who was a tyrant and shouldn’t deserve credit for the independance of Ethiopia.Haile has massacred many intellectuals, if he had given up his thorn on time Ethiopia will never be in crises now.

  15. Abebaw
    November 30, 2011 at 7:07 am | #41

    A RESPONSE TO TEGBARU MISIKIR

    1) Even if Marcus Garvey had indeed said what you have quoted him as saying, and even as he gets credit for speaking up and doing good things on behalf of oppressed blacks, Garvey was not exacly a blameless leader of the Pan-Africanist movement. He was accused of being an enemy of the negro race by Pan- Africanist leaders of his time. W.E..B Du Bois, dubbed the father of Pan-Africanism, the first black to earn a doctorate from Harvard, founder of the NAACP, prolific writer of about 32 books and professor of history, sociology and economics at Atlanta University, had the following to say about Garvey : ” Marcus Garvey is, without doubt, the most dangerous enemy of the negro race in America and in the world. He is either a lunatic or a traitor……” Early in 1922 Garvey went to Atlanta and had his famous meeting with KKK imperial giant Edward Young Clarke and declared, ” I (Garvey) regard the Klan, the Anglo- Saxon clubs and white American societies, as far as the negro is concerned, as better friends of the race than all other groups of hypocritical whites put together……….” According to Richard B. Moore in ” Marcus Garvey and the Vision of Africa,” pp 228, “…….After Garvey’s entente with the clan, a number of African- American leaders appealed to U.S Attorney General Harry M Daugherty to have Garvey incarcerated.” Open-minded as I’d like to be about anything past and significant in history, I don’t believe for a minute that Garvey was a Klansman. He was simply trying to take advantage of a convergence of interest between his strongly held Back-to-Africa vision and KKK’s agenda of getting rid of the negro race in America by resettling them back in Africa. The fact that hind-sight is 20/20 and tthat about a quarter century has passed since Garvey allegedly said those venomous words about an emperor that I greatly respect, allows me to be understanding and kind to him. In the heat of the on-going political moment Garvey was venting and hitting the great king bellow the belt, the same way Du Bois was hitting Garvey.If only Ato Tegbaru was half as magnanimous and half as open-minded regarding the emperor and his legacy as I am regarding Garvey, there would have been no need for this comment.
    2) As France was falling to the invading Nazi Germans, on June 17,1940 Brigadier General Charles De Gaulle, much like emperor Haile Selassie fled to England with the intention of organizing and leading an armed resistance from there with the help of western powers opposed to the Germans. From November 1942 to May of 1943 he led the resistance movement in France from his new headquarter in Algeria after which he went back to England. On June 14, 1944 he left Britain for france -victorious, and served his country in various capacities including as president from 1959 to 1969. Today, the name De gaulle is synonymous with FRANCE. The French recognise him for their great liberator that he was and worship the groung that man walked on. During the occupation, he was away from France for three days shy of four years – almost the same amount of time that emperor Haile Selassie was in England working hard to enlist diplomatic and military hardware support for the underground resistance against fascist Italy. He worked under infinitely more hostile environment in Europe (because he was an African), much more hostile to him than England was to De Gaulle. Regarding his forgiving stance to the former collaborators of the facsists, statesmen in his position do that all the time in order to avoid a viscious cycle of hate and vengeance, and so that such conflicts would not blossom and have lives of their own – much like Mandela did in South Africa. He also had to deal resolutely with former arbegnas (patriot partisans) who were starting to show extreme entitlement sentiments that bordered on lawlessness. All these happened a long, long time ago. Today,so many years later, we can afford to be understanding, kind and magnanimous to one of the greatest leaders Africa and Ethiopia ever knew.

    • Tegbaru Misikir
      December 1, 2011 at 12:55 pm | #42

      If u read ethiopia’s history, the people ALWAYS need their leaders around when they militarily challenge aggressors. Lij Eyassu’s followers surrendered to Teferi when Eyassu was captured – the famous idiomatic (qineyawi) saying goes: “AWRAW KETEYAZE MARUN EBAKACHIHU”. The Tewodros army vanished into the thin air when tedi killed himself. we don’t have to mix up facts. u brought in de guelle who fought nazi germany from abroad. france was a colonial power. he went to algeria. algeria was a french colony. one the reason (facotors) revolving behind the fact that mussolini could reach addis ababa is just teferi the street smart absconded to europe. moewover after he ran away to safety what did he do? nothing except his last speech at the league of nations. then after he went to uk, they gave him a house and he lived with all his family. on the other hand the ethiopian people were massacred by poisonous gas. even from his exile what he was checking was whether or not the patriots were giving allegiance to his crown. all his worry 7/24 was his power. teferi contributed nothing to ethiopia’s independence. the patriots had decided not to put him back on his throne. it was the british who forcefully installed him to power. many patriots were sick and tired of him. they wanted him to be charged with treason.

    • Tegbaru Misikir
      December 6, 2011 at 2:32 pm | #43

      HSI greates?????????????? greatest my foot! what makes him great???? coz he slaughtered lij eyassu? coz he made our country pvt property of few feudal lords? coz he ran away from the war front and so the idiom goes on to say: “yaltegera feres tekil eyalachihu; kemaychew denbiro london gebalachihu

    • Ras
      September 13, 2012 at 2:03 pm | #44

      Your points are all as a result of mind controll. Think about it

  16. Tegbaru Misikir
    December 1, 2011 at 12:56 pm | #45

    comparing teferi with mandela is like comparing apple and orange.

  17. silk
    December 4, 2011 at 9:27 am | #46

    And to those critics of Emperor Haile Selassie . Everyone gets some things right; some wrong. But we must remember that Mengistu, Meles sowed the seeds for the actual destruction of Ethiopia (call it what you will) with war mentality, ethnic federalism and the imposition of tribal identification which seems to hold to some people, that any culture, however grotesque, is better than that of this country. Splitting up and favoring one’s own ethnic group is a poison that would flare up into violence one day. Janhoy didn’t set out to destroy the country.

    • Tegbaru Misikir
      December 6, 2011 at 2:12 pm | #47

      I am truly surprised some are still thinking with their heart, not their brain. Some are saying mengistu and meles are not better than him, so HSI was a good leader. This destroys logic. True mengistu and meles are butcher fascists who are far worse than HSI. So what? Should this make the emperor a a good person. Not at all!. If the question asked is: Wasn’t HSI better compared to the two butchers, Meles and Mengistu? The answer is yes – even big yesssssssssssssssssssss. But if the question is: was he a good leader? I say no, big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

      • Addis Chick
        July 31, 2012 at 10:36 pm | #48

        You are demented. I have read all the arguments and you just have absolutely no valid point and spout hate. People like you is why Ethiopia is what it is today. Get a grip!

  18. Abebaw
    December 8, 2011 at 6:32 am | #49

    Your admission, that compared to Mengistu and Meles, the emperor was a better leader, is truly remarkable and gives me hope and reason to believe that we are not persuing a sterile course. Therefore, a few things must be said. First of all the emperor did not make the country the ‘ private property of a few feudal lords ‘ as you claim. On the countrary, HIM spent his life to stop these feudal lords from continuing to make the country their ‘ private property ‘ by introducing modern, progressive taxation and land-owning systems and by instituting a rudimentary parliamentary representative government. The clergy and nobility, who were literally the powers on whom his power rested thwarted most of his reformist agenda. Believe it or not,these two powerful classes of people considered him to be too educated, too progressive and therefore too much of a threat to their interests from the day he became the regent. The emperor was not as omnipotent as some of us like to believe when it comes to encroaching upon the interests of the clergy and nobility. The nobility in Gojjam for instance, rose up in arms when he tried to modernize the tax system. Academics and writers like Marina Ottaway, Fred Hallidayand Maxine Molyneux, all of whom espouse left-leaning political views, have written books claiming that the United States advised him to curb his land reform plans which they deemed untimely and too radical and ambitious for an emperor whose power still rested on regional land lords. A MERET YIZOTA ADMINISTRATION guy by the name Yohannes Kifle was appointed and led the study that came up with the reformist plan. You need to read up on these and other areas like his relationship with Lij Iyassu and more. If some how that is too much daunting of a task, please read the WIKIPEDIA page on His Imperial Majesty Haile Sellasie the First. Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia has a reputation for its unbiased and up-to-date biographies. read all of it – it’s a short read.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie_I#Exile

    • Tegbaru Misikir
      December 8, 2011 at 2:33 pm | #50

      Well….well is very true the emperor was better than his successors, derg and weyane. These two are butchers extraordinaire whose sole interest is power and money. No question the emperor’s administration very much better than these two wild beasts. The issue is derg and weyane are not the measurement of truth. derg and weyane are measurement of fascism. If you compare one dictator with another dictator and say this one killed and tortured and even stole less money and so he is good – that would be a disaster. They are like our fingers. one is bigger than the others, and yet all are fingers. The point here is all were/are ruthless fascistic dictators who ruled and ruling by force and brutal coercion. In 1974 revolution many atrocities committed by the emperor were exposed. A man like Aleqa Fetene was imprisoned in a dark cell, solitary confinement and cuffed by a chain that weighes 50or so kg. Why? he openly criticised him. He killed lij eyassu when he was absconding leaving his people and country behind. Please read ‘qey anbesa’.

    • Tegbaru Misikir
      December 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm | #51

      My fellow country men and women:
      I suggest to all bros and sis here to visit a website very interesting one. I came across to it by sheer chance and I couldn’t believe what I came across accidentally. http://gce-etc.tripod.com

  19. Jose karera
    June 6, 2012 at 11:59 am | #52

    Bravo Tegbaru you are great.
    Teferi Mekonen came to power by with the help of England (represented by Minister Thesiger and their great spy Lawrance of Arabia ), France (represented by Minister Brice), Italy (represented by Count Colli), and Echegie Wolde Georgis (Who was deneid the Debrelibanos Maderia Erist by Abeto Hoy Lij Iyassu). So, it is not surprising that he fled for Bath-UK leaving his people for the fascist Italians.
    Abeto Hoy Lij Iyassu was killed due to his anti- colonial policies, religious policies (bringing equality between Muslims and Christians), Anti-Corruption strategies (by creating the first Ethiopian Government auditing systems, Reforms of the judiciary system concerning Leba Shay, or issues that deal with inheritance and helping the poor and marginalized.
    Especially the anti-colonial policy of Abeto Hoy Lij Iyassu was the core point why the three European powers wanted a puppet like Teferi. Example: Iyassu helped Muhammad Abdille of Somaliliand who fought against the British colonizers. He wanted also told the French governor in Djibouti to leave the territory within a month, he also made Awaj and moblized about 300000 (tjhreehundredthausand) soldiers including about 40,000 only from Afar tribe to oust Italia from Eritrea and Somalia.
    Because of Iyassu Wollo, Tigray and Oromia were under permanent pressures during Teferi Mekonen regime.
    Amemegn Dekemegn Bilo sayinager
    Swum sayteyiqew Hakim saymeremir
    Teqebro qere woy Wollon yahil hager.
    Anyway, Iyassu was murdered but God sent also the Derg to be killed like Iyassu and burried in a toilet -Iyassu’s funeral place is not known and it is better instead of being buried in a toilet. Haile Sillasie Yeejachewn new Yagegnut

    • Jose karera
      December 4, 2012 at 11:55 am | #53

      It is better to ignore people who do not understand their recent history but try to tell us that they are wise. Dejaz-Terferi Mekonen (Who called himself Haile Selassie). Fled the country to England. Thesiger writes that ” back from Maichew the Emperor came to The British Embassy to safe keep his son (Asfawossen) and Three boxes gold and Tegera Bir”. Remember UK was one of the countries who brought him to power. Even Marcus Garvey calle Haile Selasie a s “Coward Lion”. As he was in Bath-UK, he was even ready to accept Mussolini’s negotiation to take Ethiopia for Three million pound. Thanks to the Ethiopian patriots like Belay Zeleqe, Abebe Aregay, Lij Yohannes Iyassu, Lij Melaketsehay Iyassu, ( who raised Balamberas Abebe Aregay to Ras), Ras Imiru, Ras Desta….Teferi was lucky again to get Churchil’s suppourt because Mussolini joined Hitler to attack the UK. The strateg of Churchil was to weaken Italy by taking her colonies like Eritrea, somalia (Italian) and Libya..
      The worst thing what Teferi did was to arrest or kill most of the leading patriots. Indeed you can not compare the Lion (Mandela) with a coward rat.

  20. June 30, 2012 at 11:57 am | #54

    Why is it some of Ethiopia’s own people continue to degrade Haile Selassie.
    With claims of H.I.M running away from His country and they dare not mention the help He gathered for His people in His return.
    How great was the picture they saw this war was to be and how great did H.I.M see it, did they understand how frail H.I.M knew His people were compared to the aggressor is this not to be considered or do they prefer that H.I.M had stayed, died and their country left in even more disarray than it’s in now.
    Not only Ethiopia but the world, H.I.M Haile Selassie took the beast by the head. This should be recognized and celebrated.
    Those which preferred to collaborate with the aggressors are the ones who should of been held for treason, this would be considered, normal, and what were their intension, did it benefit their nation at the beginning of the war and will it help now. Whoever pursues this manner are not just fool, but double fool.

  21. tsblct
    July 18, 2012 at 10:46 pm | #55

    slavery was introduce by arbs in ethiopia, those moslems and arabs was exercising slavery thru out the country in the name of ethiopian, people slavey was exercized on all kind of people as long as they are poor, in the old days people use only teff or other seeds to get paid there is no such thing dollor or birr, but the poor server never got paid they just work free but eat and live there. in those days there was indian slavey,white slavery, asian slavery it was who has more money slave the others. i thing the old king done the way it should be then, the culture was diffrent, let us learn to forgive and close the chapter and try to improve the life of the people now, if south african can for give we can if african american can for give i think we can, if the jwish can for give egyptian i thing we can, let talk the nice thing they did live for that instead of the negative part, every leader has bad side do not focus on one side. be wiser

  22. Habesha
    July 19, 2012 at 11:15 am | #56

    Comparing the foolish H/Sellassie who fled the country during Italian Invasion and came to power later after Ethiopian patriots won the Italians, with African great man Mandella is like comparing the rat with the lion.

    • July 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm | #57

      Dear Habesha

      Comparing H.I.M to a lower form reminds me very much of those traitors who was handing power of Great Ethiopia to those greedy war mongers who started WW2 and 1 in the first place.

      May I ask, are you one of them, as you sound and talk just like them.

      Maybe you might try and find an alternative way to communicate. Try it, you may benefit from the experience.

    • DEANCODY1
      November 12, 2012 at 1:55 pm | #58

      BURN U OUT

  23. Abebaw
    July 20, 2012 at 5:19 pm | #59

    Habesha, Haile Sellase got Mandela started on the road to ftreedom. Most anti-colonial movements in all of Africa benefitted from the King’s diplomatic, financial and moral support. What is consuming you seems to me to be another issue. You could for instance be one of those guys who believe that they are not habasha. Hence, your nick name…….obviously meant to imply that you’re one of us. lol

    • July 21, 2012 at 1:19 pm | #60

      Dear Abebaw

      That is a welcomed statment from you and I am most certainley with our Dear Power of the Trinity the First and always in the first instance not looking at H.I.M rich which is I am led to believe is what many at that time look for, with them not recognising it is those same riches of H.I.M that has helped and transform our beloved Ethiopia to what it is today and giving Ethiopia the tools to advance, in as much that it has even given what’s his name the amunition to fight H.I.M Power of the Trinity though what’s his name dearn’t mention this neither of what’s his names greed, wantoness and envy. I see it as no more than these are the traits H.I.M tried to show all his people the down fall such attitude brings as it has always done since creation but these what’s their names will not and cannot see pass this till it is imperitive that they fail and with the Blessing of H.I.M and the Almighty that the world and creation must go on.

      There, I think I got that of my chest Abebaw.

      I thank you for your blessings also Abebaw.

  24. Habesha
    July 23, 2012 at 7:21 am | #61

    Abebaw, Trust me that I am an Habesha. But what you need to understand is that those people who claim that they are not Habeshas are not really Habeshas. The term implies only to Semetic speaking peoples of Ethiopia, like Amhara, Tigre, and Probably Gurage. The majority Cushetic speaking Ethiopian peoples are not Habeshas. Pls refer to history for the meaning to Habesha. If some group or individual person is not habesha, don’t try to habeshanize or Ethiopianize the by force like your father Hailesellasie tried to do. Ofcourse, it is very difficult in this contemporary world. To be logical, eventhough I am one of the semetic speaker, I am not the one who praise Hailesellasie like the Jamaicans. He do not have a good history, he was completely a dictator. He was discriminating b/n different people based on their race. For example some Ethinic groups were not allowed to go beyond grade 4th. He himself was confused about his ethinicity. For your information, he was 50% Oromo, 25% Amhara, and 25% Gurage.

    • Nebro
      September 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm | #62

      The semetic and cushitic issue is based on language not on real ethnic identity. Most of the people who speak semetic amharic or tigrigna are actually of the cushitic agaw blood. Millions of semits have also become the cushitic oromifa speakers. We are intermingled and became Ethiopians. Pls grow up and stop ethnic politics.

  25. sab
    October 1, 2012 at 7:57 am | #63

    our emperor has been already passed away. he is too oppressive ‘lewechu alga lewestu eshoh’

  26. DEANCODY1
    November 12, 2012 at 1:50 pm | #64

    Empror OF Ethiopia is GOD

  27. Farafina
    December 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm | #65

    For many South Africans Mandela is a sell out and for many Ethiopians Selassie was a dictator. As the saying goes, no one is a prophet in his own country.

  28. December 11, 2012 at 4:44 pm | #66

    Solomon had slaves and he admired his slaves. Friends, it is not the word slavery that holds the power, but the action of slavery. Today, billions of people are held in slavery. We are slaves to a system that enslaves us. Slavery is not defined by whether the slave receives or does not receive paper or coin monies (now a days digital currency), but rather by the conditions the enslaved human is living in. Although many people think that the road to success is paved by man, the truth is that only we, as our own individual spiritual leaders, can achieve success. . It does not matter how much gold a person has required. It matters how that person feels in his or her heart about the gold. If a person is never content with the Creator than no matter how much gold there is, the person is poor. Haile Selassie came to the earth to teach us a lesson. Christ also came to the earth to teach us a lesson. Blasphemy is not learning.

    • December 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm | #67

      Selassie I is da King and da father of African liberation, Mandela is just da icon, sell out and da coward who planned assassination of our fellow communists leaders so he can keep da oppressors and yield da fruits of apartheid, put da whites first as it happen and let da blacks live in shacks, starve in hunger life miserable and shamefull life of unemployment as it happening, so whatever critics you may have for His Imperial Majesty don’t you even compare him to dat ……

  29. Ra Ntsau-ntsau
    February 2, 2013 at 7:00 pm | #68

    The hatred for His Imperial Majesty is based on ethnic hatred, misinformation and propaganda. The Emperor advocated for education and modernization in Ethiopian, his story tells that He established schools and even converted his own palace to a university. He contributed a lamp sum of Money for the establishment of the first Afrikan Parliament that led to the founding of the Organisation of Afrikan unity. The Emperor defended the History of Ethiopia, its sovereignty with vigor and without doubt. He made Ethiopia to be visible and respected in the international scene. He introduced Air planes, modern technology, hospitals and sent youths to study overseas..

    what some of my hating brothers forget is that the greatest weapon in the war against the fascism was propaganda and against that weapon His Majesty was no match. When Emperor’s relationship with England turned soar, the Americans CIA started to divide the people.. Just like how France would do in Congo and in Burkina Faso and how Britain would do it South Afrika.. Mandela did not finish His Job, He retired to early. We got racial peace and inherited political war on each other as Afrikans. We got political freedom but we still economical slaves. After all Afrikans in the South where not fighting to be like whites but rather we were fighting be Afrikans in Afrika and exercise Afrikan rights as inspired by the Afrikan spirit..

    • February 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm | #69

      For the sake of all Afrikan at home and abroad, I had only wished that it was me who could of given such a Sweet and true account of these time as Ra Ntsua-ntsua

      I so wish all this properganda which was started in Ethiopia by the Germans and Italians at that time could be illiminated, if only Ethiopia had the Power of Media at that time, the lies that emmbeded in Ethiopians for that time would not have Ethiopians in the shackles of the interest (magic european words: interest) of these alien nations that keep us dividing ourselves.

    • melash desta
      May 23, 2013 at 1:45 am | #70

      Poor speculations. you are writing a new history based on your fantasy that you have for the emperor. No doubt HSI was a renowned diplomat and ruler. But don’t distort history and give false and unfounded credits. never heard of Afrikan Parliament that HSI established and financed, How can a parliament be formed before the formation of OAU.

  30. February 3, 2013 at 12:20 am | #71

    The misinformation and the neocolialist mentality plus the imperialist teachings of these critics of HIM and comparisons of corruption are very disturbing. The devisive methods & arguments they put forward border on propaganda tactics , trivial politics have no place in black history both Nelson Mandela and Haile Selassie did great works for there respective countries .In trying to down grade Marcus Garvey in the same vain is an underhanding move to futher the disdain black Americans have for Jamaicans, because Garveys movement (UNIA) outshone the (NAACP) had a larger membership etc. There are very important issues that are affecting us right now that needs to be addressed.

  31. February 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm | #72

    His Imperial Majesty Ever Fought For All His People and Beyond right to the end

  32. joseph
    February 23, 2013 at 4:51 pm | #73

    Love ther writtings

  33. February 24, 2013 at 2:25 am | #74

    Read all the posts for the first time and it is so sad to “hear” people, especially Ethiopians, belittling the Emperor, who dedicated his life to the development of Ethiopia specifically, and Africa,generally. His vision to educate Ethiopians, at home and abroad, has provided Ethiopia today with the human capital and a template for economic and social advancement.
    He is a respected elder statesman worldwide because of his many accomplishments, and guess what the Emperor is revered by millions, as the Defender of the Faith, Power of the Trinity. We care not for those who think little of HIM, whether you are an Ethiopian or other. Because of their contribution to humanity and their faith in the Almighty, Emperor Haile Selassie 1 and Empress Menen lives, in the hearts and minds of millions.

  34. March 1, 2013 at 10:48 am | #75

    All respect to the Emperor but Mandela you made couple of mistakes I m crying over my freedom. One God, One Aim and One love
    Jah protect Africa

  35. March 12, 2013 at 10:45 am | #76

    this is very interesting

  36. Habesha
    May 25, 2013 at 9:15 am | #77

    @Ra Ntsau-ntsau, There is no reason to show ethnic hatred towards H/Sellassie. As I told you in previous writings, the father of his father is an Oromo, and the father of his mother is also an Oromo. The mother of his mother is Amhara and the mother of his father is Gurage. His full name is Teferi Mekonnen Gudesa. As you tried to mention he is just an Ethiopan. You can’t assume him as an Oromo, Amhara, Gurage etc. But the combination of all. You can google by his name to have much info. Regarding Mandella, it was true that Mandella was trained in Ethiopia. But it was not H/sellassies who traind Mandella. But who trained Mandella was the military general of the time, who was later killed by H/sellassie agents for protesting against the regime for H/sellassies education discrimination policy against some ethnic groups, probably against his own 50% ethnic group simply from his ignorance. He was claiming that is ” If ‘x’ ethnic group will be educated, they are like an ocean and at the end of the day they will swallow us’. He was Illiterate, who speaks only Amharic on AU meetings, and he was also coward himself and he do not deserve to train the ‘lion’ Mandella.

  37. Pops
    May 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm | #78

    H.I.M. Haile Selassie I Speech to the United Nations (excerpt)
    New York City, NY October 4, 1963

    “…until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the color of a man’s skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men, as they are in the eyes of Heaven; Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil…”

  38. Tsehai J.
    June 7, 2013 at 10:07 am | #79

    There is another thing Emperor Haile Selassie’s critics never got about, the Emperor was a man with a cause who has achived a lot . Among his achievements were his establishment of a university, which even after the cruel years of Mengistu Haile Mariam’s rule and EPRDF’s ineffective educational system, maintained the quality of international standards and an enviable track record of producing researches.
    The Emperor built Ethiopian Airlines, still one of the largest and most profitable carriers in Africa. He laid down thousands of kilometers of all-weather roads. During his reign, the number of elementary, high school, colleges in Ethiopia has doubled and the number of students quintupled, even though it served only about 10 percent of Ethiopia’s youth, they received a quality education that prepared them for jobs in a growing economy. He also established orphanages, hospitals, and self-help institutions.

  39. Yohannes
    June 7, 2013 at 1:41 pm | #80

    Personally I believe Janhoy, no matter what his vices, has given Ethiopians an international image that they had been proud of. It is what he has built during his reign, that the country and subsequent governments have been unable to maintain. I don’t think what the good Emperor has done for Ethiopia and Africa deserves to be belittled, or ignored. The man has done great by his country. I think we should honor him by giving him credit he deserves.

  40. elijah mclean
    June 9, 2013 at 9:05 pm | #81

    Anybody who slanders HIM shame on you, I is man & done his very best in moving blacks away from slavery & into a modernize society.

  41. June 29, 2013 at 8:48 am | #82

    Haile Selassie I, like his contemporaries, and perhaps those before and after him, had to contend with so many forces and at the same time ensure progress. Among those forces were inter-tribal conflicts, annexation attempts by rival tribal thrones, foreign invasion threats/attempts with collusion of local betrayers, etc. Notwithstanding, he pushed forward lots of progressive agendas for Ethiopia, supported several African countries especially those that were struggling to free themselves from colonial rule, and contributed some of the best ideas for a more united, stronger and progressive Africa.
    It is no surprising that African leaders who refuse to bow to western selfish demands are often viewed negatively. EHS I, like any other human, had his faults. However, they are not enough to erase his enormous achievements. Stop being biased.

  42. solomonson
    June 29, 2013 at 9:07 am | #83

    Haile selassi the first was crownD 2nD november 1930 addis ababa the conqering lion of the tribe of judah elect of goD kings of kings lords of lords emperor of ethiopia highest title upon mother earth

  43. Desta
    July 26, 2013 at 4:44 pm | #84

    People like Shashu and Henok really need to pay attention to what they are stating.
    The fact of the matter is Haile Selassie was a great emperor and he completely transformed not only Ethiopia, but Africa as a whole. He was well respected by many important diplomats and President’s around the world and the fact that you would attempt to tarnish his legacy is ridiculous. He was not a dictator (Meles on the other hand was) and with Haile Selassie in power Ethiopia had become an African powerhouse. We were the first African Nation to be members of the United Nations, the list goes on and on.
    Anyways, this is all besides the point. This article is describing the relationship/friendship that Haile Selassie and Nelson Mandela had, and he is doing so in his own eyes. His own experience. So, there is no right or wrong way to portray him and I think he did a great job. And to me, Nelson Mandela and Haile Selassie are two of the greatest African Leaders of all time.

    • Shupstarr Ras
      August 27, 2013 at 4:57 pm | #85

      Glory be upon those who exult the name of H.I.M who we here in Azania (South Africa) regard as the rightful ruler of peace on this planet. That is why Rasta is gaining respect in our lands. The true history of he’s love for all of Africa will eventually come out. Jah guide !

  44. S. Opie
    September 13, 2013 at 4:05 am | #86

    First, all these names, “tewfik” “Gabisa” etc are made up. Its one or two people that write these incendiary lies hoping repetition will make them acceptable. Secondly books, movies have come out disproving pretty much all the accusations against the Emperor and actually pointing out things he could have worked harder at but did not. Third Haile Selassie I’s problem, and actually Ethiopia’s problem in general has been foreign agenda’s. Ethiopians are at an ancient cross roads sitting on unimaginable riches, in land they have defiantly held against all odds. Why is it a wonder that every would be mercenary and his son that came and got chased out would hate not just this but every Emperor ?

    Lets get real. Expect these negative remarks, even relish them. Its a sign that the right people have been affected and will eternally buzz like inconsequential flies.

  45. September 26, 2013 at 4:35 pm | #87

    The notes in this journal reflect the ignorance of Ethiopian history…its sad to know not that you know not…

  46. Nebiy Yaqob
    October 22, 2013 at 5:04 pm | #88

    Those people who are criticising is His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I need to go forward&do some serious reading&research& come out of their politrical(political) propaganda blindness as it hold them down inna ignorancy, they need to look at things with an open mind&stop being BRAINWASHED by POLITRICIAN(POLITICIAN) who are all about their ownna monetary&material gain, who have no interest in helping the poor&have nots of this world that we are living in. Equal Rights&Justice for one&all no matter their Colour, Class, Creed or Religion, Unity gives the Strength that is needed to pull down the walls of BABYWRONG(BABYLON- Confusion), Selam Na Fiqr(Peace&Love).

  47. Godson
    November 4, 2013 at 11:12 pm | #89

    Wow look all these people writing these negative things anl lies about the king of kings his title which he attained November 2 1930 for all with eyes to see and books to bear record of this event . Read your bible and seek understanding my people and be carefull wat you people write and say ye fools of knowledge

  48. November 5, 2013 at 1:08 pm | #90

    Mr. Mandela has been silent on his training in Ethiopia for too long…I heard about it some time ago and wondered why he has never spoken about how he learned how to liberate his people: from His Majesty and Ethiopian military officials…he also learned a lot about spiritual resilience…and yet this is all he has to say? I personally have not yet heard Mr. Mandela say anything in defense of HIM…I would be interested in asking him why?

  49. RAS ETHIOPIA
    November 6, 2013 at 12:07 am | #91

    AS AN ETHIOPIAN I KNOW THAT WE ARE GREATLY INFORMED MISLED BRAIN WASHED AND FORCED SO MUCH LIES ABOUT OUR TRULY RIGHT KING H.I.M. HAILE SELASSIE. IT IS SO SAD TO SEE ETHIOPIANS ARE THE FIRST AND ONLY ONE TO DISRESPECT AND CURSE THEIR OWN KING. AND TO ALL HIS MAJESTY ENEMY AND HATERS YOU CAN GO TO HELL WITH YOUR BULLSHIT AND MISERY BASTARDS. I WAS FED ALMOST MY LIFE LIES AND HATE ABOUT MY BELOVED KING. FIRE FIRE FIRE FOR ENEMIES………..

    • November 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm | #92

      Truly so much words of hate of a King that not only secured the liberty of His people in His lifetime but even (so sad to say) without Him amongst us here today.

      Those that crawl to despise and hate Him are those same ones who would of handed their people and country to an enemy who have been waiting to pounce over hundreds of years on a Righteous Nation and Truly The Jerusalem In The Eyes of The Almighty it Is.

      Many untrue statements were made against His Majesty by the terrorist of that time and it seems His Mercy will have no end.

      Praises To The King, Emperor Haile Selassie I
      RasTafari

    • December 6, 2013 at 8:05 pm | #93

      My heart bleeds with you…but those of us who remember HIM have a duty to clear the weeds from around his feet (His Legacy)…let us ignore the lies and move forward with truth. Join with us to share the knowledge and encourage others –especially Monarchist to join together in one voice so that we can dispel the lies.

  50. sam
    November 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm | #94

    H.I.M JAH WISE, JAH NO DEAD, JAH RISE,GIVE THANKS N PRAISES

  51. mthiya
    December 5, 2013 at 11:57 pm | #95

    blessed

  52. hara medhen
    December 6, 2013 at 5:31 am | #96

    Haile selassie. He fougth his country from the against itaily muslsin in 1953 /1954 where ethiopia was attacked hamful daedly gasess innocent civillents died and. Thousands children were killed we. Must rember he was the brainchild of the AUO African United Organisation which today UN

  53. December 6, 2013 at 8:09 pm | #97

    His Majesty stands alone and can be compared to no one. In fact he was a mentor to the Honorable Nelson Mandela…many are unaware that Mandela received spiritual training from His Majesty and military training from the Imperial Army. I was waiting for a long time for Mr. Mandela to share this little known truth, but he never did, for whatever reason I’m not sure. God Bless Nelson Mandela, can be compared to no one, nor can HIM, but together they were great forces on earth who did bring out great change. Long Live HIM and Nelson Mandela in spirit; may they now work to revive the Pan-African Movement for Africa is not yet truly free.

  54. neville
    December 7, 2013 at 8:12 pm | #98

    the differences between Nelson Mandella and His Imperial majesty Haile Selassie jah tafari are as vast as the scope of a dream both exceptional men in there own way in their own time.

  55. neville
    December 7, 2013 at 8:16 pm | #99

    maybe I,m wrong but I can,t think of any leader of his country who has never tried to line his pockets out of public funds in one way or another.

  56. December 10, 2013 at 8:42 pm | #100

    KING SELASSIE OF ETHIOPIA RUN MY WORLD.HE IS THE ANCINT OF DAY,MIGHT OF THE TRINITY.EVERLASTING FATHER

  57. December 13, 2013 at 7:06 am | #101

    King of Kings Haile Selassie I is not a politician…He continues to be the Last of the ancient Kings of KUSH (Genesis 2:10-13) to rule ancient KUSH (Ethiopia) by Divine Right; He is the Last King to sit upon the Throne of David in modern times (from over 7,000 years ago to 1975). As most of us are aware, the Ancient Kushite-Solomonic Throne of David has been in exile since 1975, though Imperial Government (The Throne of David) continues to exist in exile. HIM is not a politician: He is King of Kings, Lord of Lords Conquering Lion of Judah who was the last King from a long line of ancient Kings to sit upon the Throne of David in modern times. from an ancient Kushite-Ethiopian perspective, neither HIM nor Mandela are dead…they live in a place called “Forever” and it is from there they continue to inspire us to continue their work. Yes. I am happy the true history of Mr. Mandela and HIM is slowly leaking out…for HIM was a mentor to Mandela…during that time HIM was still known as “The Father of Africa Unity”…don’t forget this.

  58. December 16, 2013 at 6:40 am | #102

    jtvalerie :
    Regency[edit]
    The extent to which Tafari Makonnen contributed to the movement that would come to depose Iyasu V has been discussed extensively, particularly in Haile Selassie’s own detailed account of the matter. Iyasu V, or Lij Iyasu, was the designated but uncrowned Emperor of Ethiopia from 1913 to 1916. Iyasu’s reputation for scandalous behavior and a disrespectful attitude towards the nobles at the court of his grandfather, Menelik II,[32] damaged his reputation. Iyasu’s flirtation with Islam was considered treasonous among the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian leadership of the empire. On 27 September 1916, Iyasu was deposed.[33]
    Contributing to the movement that deposed Iyasu were conservatives such as Fitawrari Habte Giyorgis, Menelik II’s longtime Minister of War. The movement to depose Iyasu preferred Tafari, as he attracted support from both progressive and conservative factions. Ultimately, Iyasu was deposed on the grounds of conversion to Islam.[14][33] In his place, the daughter of Menelik II (the aunt of Iyasu) was named Empress Zewditu, while Tafari was elevated to the rank of Ras and was made heir apparent and Crown Prince. In the power arrangement that followed, Tafari accepted the role of Regent Plenipotentiary (Balemulu ‘Inderase) and became the de facto ruler of the Ethiopian Empire (Mangista Ityop’p’ya). Zewditu would govern while Tafari would administer.[Concerning The Claim of a Coup

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie_I

  59. December 19, 2013 at 1:31 am | #103

    and I see that, some are still left to spread more ill words. If only His Imperial Majesty was not so merciful!

  60. Yonil
    December 19, 2013 at 8:52 am | #104

    However Mandela is great, Haile Selase’s contribution to Africa and to the black people in general is exceptional. He was able to inspire the Harlem renaissance movement in USA (led by Marcus Garvey), the pan-Africanism movement in the whole world (the black movement to return to Africa) and a focal person to establish AU….he was a soul for Ragge music…. he trained prominent ANC leaders, including Nelson Mandela…..I don’t know why we Ethiopians failed to praise His majesty, we even gave more credit for Kuwame Nkrumah!!!

  61. December 20, 2013 at 1:26 pm | #105

    Imani Kali-Nyah :
    Yes, history recorded that HIM abolished slavery…but then, the same people who falsely accuse him today are of the same spirit, if not THE spirits, that ignored his proclamation yesterday. How would HIM know that people were selling people after the proclamation was written? Perhaps he wrote the Proclamation after he was advise? Did every man always do what they were supposed to do under the Crown? Perhaps those who were supposed to advise him did not advise him of same and again if they did, no doubt this is why the Proclamation was written, but it was apparently ignored by the criminals. This is not the time to continue to lie on HIM, this is the time when His memory is being recalled (resurrected) by the Silent Majority who are supporters of the Crown. I am so pleased they are finally coming out in the light. I know for a fact there are individuals who supported the Derge who took part in murdering college students and carried out atrocities under Mengistu, perhaps many of you know of these people, perhaps they are family members. Whomever they are, they are living good unrighteous lives in America amongst the very ones they sought to persecute under the Derg. This would not happen with Nazi’s who exterminated the Jewish people…but the pretenders now hide safely in America. There are perhaps thousands of pretenders and betrayers who came over with those who had no choice, such as members of the Royal Family and their supporters who are in exile…stay in Ethiopia or die. The ethnic prejudice in this forum reeks of the same spirits who had worked with Mengistu and Meles to put the Throne asunder and keep it asunder (not allow it to return to Ethiopia), forever and they use their lies to support their and justify the reason why “The Throne will never return to Ethiopia!. But the pretenders must remember, if they ever knew and could get past their hatred of everything related to the Throne, they must remember or come to know (read about their own history) and they will undoubtedly learn that the ancient Throne in Ethiopia has existed since the beginning of time as we know it (KUSH (“Cush”) of Genesis 2:10-13 until 1975 when they bloodied their hands and put the Throne asunder. The problem in Ethiopia today is that politics must be separated from history, otherwise politicians will continue to decide what is included and what is not…no one should censor history. Tt appears that President Girma has started a dialogue to bring this much needed discussion to the forefront, and such decisions must be made, sooner, than later because the Throne was established by the Almight …say what they will about His Imeprial Majesty for all the Good he has done far exceeds the lies they have manufactured against HIM. The naysayers and traitors of God Almighty God who established the ancient Throne, are like weeds around the Throne and around His Majesty’s feet, whose sole purpose is to prevent the Throne from raising, but their arms are too short to box with God. The naysayers are speaking boldly because we can’t see their faces and they have not been challenged in a public forum…let them come out into the light so that we can see who they are. Let us deal with these lies once and for all. Let the Ancient Throne Return to ancient Kush-Judah as a symbol of ancient Ethiopian sovereignty for was not government of the Throne established by God Almighty, it is not political and should not be caught up in politics… who then should put The Throne and its people asunder? Only the spirit of deceit would continue this charade, because it hasn’t been challenged, until now.

    • Ana Pan-African
      February 26, 2014 at 7:49 pm | #106

      Teachem Imani

  62. djamila
    December 23, 2013 at 6:34 pm | #107

    MANDELA WAS A GOOD MAN BUT SORRY TO SAY SELASSIE WAS A FREEMASON

    • December 26, 2013 at 5:41 pm | #108

      Concerning Freemasonry who would you say was the head and the order of the facilities that freemasonry brought.
      Freemasonry was nothing more than skilled people of all forms of trade which were at one time called; magical and mysterious and this is no longer the case as knowledge which was kept in safekeeping from all of mankind is now open for all to have.
      The choice is yours of how you wish to use it.
      I pray if you do, you use it well.

      Jah Guidance and Protection

  63. December 25, 2013 at 3:09 pm | #109

    PLEASE RESPECT AND HONOR HIM HAILE SELASIE, THE MOST IMPORTAT ASPECT HAILE SELASIE WANTED TO SHARE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IS HIS WISDOM. THE SAME WISDOM MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. WAS INSPIRED BY AND USED IN HIS SPEECHES. THE SAME WISDOM THAT INSPIRED MANY AFRICAN LEADERS INCLUDING MANDELA. I RECOMEND TO READ AND REASEACH ABOUT HIM HAILE SELASIE.

  64. Ras Mxolisi
    December 29, 2013 at 1:04 pm | #110

    People’s should do proper research and learn history.HIM was crowned KING OF KINGS ,LORD OF LORDS CONQUERING LION OF TRIBE OF JUDA in the1932 NOVMEMBER 2 So Iman give thanks and praises for the revelation of Black JAH from Africa.

  65. Ana Pan-African
    February 26, 2014 at 7:40 pm | #111

    Sorry if I am going to sound like a conspiracy theorist…It is in my opinion that Haile Selassie was a great African leader who is not often talked about among African Americans, considering the Solomonic dynastic lineage in which he belonged. He was the incarnate of the divine according to Rastafarians, if people thought that much of him we should take a closer look at who he was. It would be very interesting to find out what white American military officials thought about Haile Selassie when he was giving out honors. Did they see him as a threat to something much greater than what we could imagine? Why are we not talking about Haile Selassie more?

  66. February 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm | #112

    RASTAFARI IS ORGANISATION OF AFRICAN UNITY

  67. December 19, 2013 at 1:29 am | #113

    I would also say, the Derg continued rumors just like it had conveniently forgotten, such rumors, exactly like those that were made against His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I in the WWII by Benito Mussolini and the traitors not so long ago did, in His Imperial Majesty’s younger days.

  68. December 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm | #114

    It’s clear this forum is a mixture of Monarchist (supporters of the Crown the oldest in the world) and anti-monarchist dared to put their bloodied hands on the Throne (supporters of Mengistu and Meles (anti-Crown). Lets be real: being in the same room with the anti-Crown people is akin to the Jewish people being in the same room with Nazi’s and with Ethiopians’ being in the same room with fascist each presenting their own perspective. Many deceivers who took place in war crimes upon a people always defend themselves by making the same statement, “I acted under orders.” This is done to remove all guilt for their actions., but only in their minds. I am so pleased to see how the Honorable Mandela’s re-birth has given birth to the resurrection of HIM on this forum…which gives the Monarchist and historians an opportunity to begin the job of clearing the weeds (lies) from around HIM memory, His feet and the Throne, by providing the Monarchist an opportunity to defend the true history of the Throne from the deceivers (liars) who are aligned in the ranks. Previous members of the Derg and supporters of Meles live amongst us, many are outstanding members of the Ethiopian community in America and throughout the world, who have never been tried for the role they played in carrying out war crimes against their own kind during the time of the Derg. Many are also apologetics and live with regrets. The role of the Derg was to take over the government by abolishing the Throne and its ancient history, and then to censor any mention of HIM and this history for 17 years , then it was Meles turn for another 17 years or so. As a result, this history was censored and God’s ancient Throne was not recognized; the Royal family and their supporters forced into exile. Mengistu, Meles and their supporters may have taken over the Throne and replaced it with repressive governments but it can never be said they dismantled the Throne because it continues to exist, even in exile. These war criminals, who are living amongst us, are living good lives in America; they are the ones who continue to stand aside throwing rocks at HIM Legacy while hiding their hands. Perhaps if there was a legal movement to find these traitors and deceivers and have them face the people via international court as did with the Nazi’s wherever they were hiding, they (the deceivers) would stop their troublemaking.

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